| 3/12/2010 1:38:10 PM From: MrsK I can see making silly remarks in class once in a while, but writing things like that on a students papers is just fukt! I understand some kids can be out of hand and such, but come on. You don't associate with kids by stooping to their level of immaturity. The point is to rise above and lead by example. |  |
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3/12/2010 1:55:22 PM From: Ali If this were happening to my child, would I complain to the local school board? - Yes.
Would I take my story to the national media? - No. |  |
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| 3/12/2010 3:20:02 PM From: MrsK I don't think I would either, unless I was being ignored. But this lady has complained at least once or twice before, and I think that the latest occurence was her final straw. | |
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| 3/12/2010 4:42:43 PM From: emkay64 Well...some kids ARE losers. |  |
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| 3/12/2010 10:54:01 PM From: eddo I wouldn't have gone to the media and tell the world that my kid is a loser... |  |
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3/13/2010 6:08:19 AM From: Ali According to the clip, she went to the principal ONCE.
All she had to do was go up the chain of command and bring her complaint to the next school board meeting.
But no, she ran off to cry to the national media about her plight first. I'm guessing a heavy lawsuit will follow....these types usually like asking for money for their "trauma and suffering".
And guess who foots the bill if she wins? That's right, the fine tax payers of Buncombe county.
The kid might be a little loser. The teacher appears to be a loser. But I would have to say the biggest loser of all in this situation is mom. | |
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| 3/13/2010 8:18:25 AM From: Rani Personally, I'd be in jail. Because that teacher's ass would be mine! |  |
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| 3/13/2010 12:05:14 PM From: whogo I agree with emkay. | |
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3/13/2010 1:30:58 PM From: eddo I would like to hear the teachers side of this. For him to put it in writing tells me that maybe he has some other sort of in-class connotation for the word "loser" that maybe mommy doesn't understand.
or maybe he's an insatiable prick. either way, Emkay is right. | |
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3/13/2010 6:44:34 PM From: Rani And what would that be Eddo? There are only so many ways to define "Loser".
Frankly I do not see any reason for adults to get into name calling.
Is this teacher bullying this child and the other kids in his classroom?
Yes! He is for these reasons
It is intentionally mean spirited (embarrassing, humilation, ect.)
There is a huge power difference between the teacher doing the name calling and the student being called a loser.
And, finally he does this on a reapeated regular basis.
Name-calling is more devastating for children's self-confidence and even more so in the 1st grade.
Verbal bullying can lead to victims feeling helpless and lacking control over their own feelings and actions that can lead into a serious well known medical disorder known as post-traumatic stress. | |
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3/13/2010 6:46:50 PM From: Rani Would you be interested in hearing the teacher's side if he physically hit a 1st grader?
Why would you be interested in hearing his side when he is clearly calling the kids ugly bad names? | |
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| 3/13/2010 6:47:49 PM From: Rani OH sorry..6th grade. | |
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3/13/2010 6:50:22 PM From: eddo is being named "The Biggest loser" on tv a bad thing? or a good thing?
I don't know the teachers motivation, and I would like to. | |
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3/13/2010 6:58:54 PM From: Rani The teacher has apologized for the comments and the girl has been removed from his class.
If you have to apologize for your actions...you did wrong! | |
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| 3/13/2010 7:00:05 PM From: Rani I applaud this parent for not allowing something like this to be swept under the rug. | |
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3/14/2010 10:12:50 AM From: whogo Even wolves hate teachers.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/13/nation/la-na-wolf-attack13-2010mar13 | |
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| 3/14/2010 1:43:04 PM From: BCAR The kids probably a loser. He learned it at home. |  |
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| 3/14/2010 5:34:43 PM From: Jez If a teacher called my son a loser not only would I alert the media, but also I would invite them to film me whacking that guy's jaw clean off of his face with a 9 iron. |  |
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3/14/2010 8:56:33 PM From: Rani The fact the man used his power as a teacher to punish a child by taking 20% off an assignment leads me to believe he was not using the term "Loser" in a friendly manner. It sends me the message he is indeed stating the child is incompetent and doomed to always fail and disappoint. All the clues are there that he is using humiliation tactics to motivate the children to do their very best work possible.
Some people, I understand, are okay with using humiliation tactics to get children to do what they want them to do.
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| 3/14/2010 8:59:36 PM From: Rani Where do you cross the line? Would you be okay if every time a child got an answer wrong the teacher smacked them on the back of the hand with a ruler? In my opinion, the teacher may as well do that if humiliation is the second option. Both are abuse and both deliberately hurt the child. | |
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| 3/14/2010 9:01:09 PM From: Rani "The Biggest loser" on tv comes with rewards for a job well done, not punishment. | |
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| 3/14/2010 9:06:56 PM From: Rani Hey Jez, you want the top bunk or the bottom? Guess it is a good thing it was not our child. lol | |
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| 3/15/2010 4:42:29 AM From: BCAR He should have just drawn a noose on the paper, then we'd have some real shit going down. | |
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3/15/2010 4:45:24 AM From: BCAR If you're not a winner, then you're a LOSER.
Even if you do wear your best camouflage T shirt for your TV interview. | |
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| 3/15/2010 9:38:06 AM From: RaE this is really news? must have been a SLOW day... |  |
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3/15/2010 11:49:03 AM From: BCAR Having read all the replies I came upon this gem,
"Verbal bullying can lead to victims feeling helpless and lacking control over their own feelings and actions that can lead into a serious well known medical disorder known as post-traumatic stress."
Yea Rani, go tell it to the guys down at the V.A. hospital. | |
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3/15/2010 12:10:08 PM From: Rani Hey just relating what is out there about verbal bullying. Bullying is something schools are trying to prevent, that is not going to work if it is the teacher who is the one doing the bullying.
Understand,BCAR, in no way shape or form do I intend or ever intend to minimalize any health issue of a veteran and I do not much appreciate you implying that I would.
And, if I was to talk with the guys down at the local VA hospital about all of this; They would understand and appreciate that I care enough about the children in this world to defend their right to be free from verbal bullying and harrassment in the schools they attend. I also feel pretty confident that none of the veterans I know would want to see any child put in an environment where they suffer conditions so severe it would lead to PTSD.
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3/15/2010 12:38:36 PM From: BCAR I think perhaps you should save the drama for daytime soap actors.
Fact is, a teacher allegedly wrote Loser on a paper. We haven't heard from the teacher, just a disjointed ramble from trailer Tami up there looking to rally folks to her cause.
And that is a long long way from PTSD.
Your kids being bullied, tell em toughen up or walk em to school. The teacher writes loser on your kids paper, write dickhead on it and send it back.
The pussification of America continues. | |
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3/15/2010 12:40:14 PM From: BCAR "I also feel pretty confident that none of the veterans I know would want to see any child put in an environment where they suffer conditions so severe it would lead to PTSD."
Yes like growing up in a crack house, sure. Getting an unkind grade, I don't think so. | |
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| 3/15/2010 1:09:52 PM From: Ali "Even if you do wear your best camouflage T shirt for your TV interview." - hahahaha!!!! | |
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3/15/2010 1:11:02 PM From: MrsK While I think that writing "Dickhead" on that paper sounds awesome! LOL! I have to point out B, that this is beyond getting a bad grade. I can't say that a one time or two time occurence would lead to PTSD and I don't think that is what Rani is trying to say. An ongoing issue of bullying, especially by a teacher could lead to mental trauma for a student though. Espcially taken into consideration the extremity of the bullying. I had a teacher once who not only bullied the students, but encouraged the other children in class to follow suit. She was later fired.
The problem I have with this is that a teacher is supposed to be a leader. Someone who you can trust and believe in. Someone with the TACT and decorum to understand the dynamics of classroom interraction with children. This guy seems like... well, a Dickhead. And one who is not capable of handling his role as a teacher and a guide. | |
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| 3/15/2010 1:12:59 PM From: MrsK Sort of like the old adage, "I am not your friend I am your parent." I think the same should hold true for teachers. Be there for the pupils, encourage them, guidethem, listen to them. But don't stoop to their level no matter how you think it will help you "relate" to them. | |
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| 3/15/2010 2:19:17 PM From: whogo The pussification of America continues. Tell the gal to butch up. | |
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3/16/2010 3:51:09 AM From: Rani It is a policy violation for any school personnel, in any way shape or form, to harass a student. In any school, in any State. Don't believe me? Google it.
This includes slurs, derogatory comments, and name calling, not to mention all the other forms of harassment not included in my list here.
Determining whether alleged conduct constitutes a violation of this policy, the school division shall consider, at a minimum: (1) the surrounding circumstances; (2) the nature of the behavior; (3) past incidents or past or continuing patterns of behavior; (4) the relationship between the parties; (5) how often the conduct occurred; (6)the identity of the alleged perpetrator in relation to the alleged victim (i.e. whether the alleged perpetrator was in a position of power over the alleged victim); (7) the location of the alleged harassment; (8) the ages of the parties and (9) the context in which the alleged incidents occurred.
BCAR, this is more than a child getting a bad grade. This is about a teacher taking 20% off of a graded assignment simply because HE allegedly has deemed that child a loser. This is about a teacher throwing that same child's pencil box into the hallway and then letting the child take the fall for it. This is about a teacher repeatedly making derogatory comments and calling students bad names.
Even if this particular teacher is found to be innocent of all charges; the question remains, as this does bring up a particular controversy, what do we, as parents, and as a society deem harrassment of a student in the classroom?
For me, giving a bad grade a student deserves based on acedemic work is not harrassment, calling that student a bad name and making a derogitory comment on a graded assignment because of the child's acedemic performance inches that toe into harassment, doing so on a repeated basis shows clearly the teacher is harassing the student. And yes, a year long battle with a teacher's harassment, being a kid not able to fight back, I believe could cause some mental health issues, maybe not PTSD but certainly some issues.
Perhaps my standard and your standard vastly differs. Talking about it can help us all get on the same page on what standard should be accepted by society. | |
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3/16/2010 3:57:42 AM From: Rani Personally I know that if any teacher had the balls, or tits, as the case may be, to write on my child's paper 20% off for being a loser, writing dickhead on the paper and sending it back would not be the first impluse I would have.
I don't know that I would take it to the media, but that school would clearly know who I am. I would be pissed and I would be loud! And you all know me by now, after a certian point, it is next to impossible to shut me up! Tunnel vision all the way! | |
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| 3/16/2010 4:04:46 AM From: Rani But then, I am the type of parent that shows up for parent/teacher conferences. I am the type of parent the school knows who I am anyway because I am constantly on top of things, staying informed and participating in my child's education. I don't just send my kid to school and let her sink or swim on her own. | |
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3/16/2010 4:13:57 AM From: Rani Marine's needs to tell the story of a teacher issue she had...and how I responded. lol
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| 3/16/2010 4:52:55 AM From: BCAR Thanks to Unions and liberalism the teacher probably has tenure anyway and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it. | |
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| 3/16/2010 8:57:05 AM From: Rani Even a teacher with tenure can be fired under certain circumstances. They do not have a free pass to abuse children. | |
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| 3/16/2010 9:05:10 AM From: Rani Tenure only protects a teacher from summary dismissal. Teachers can be fired for misconduct even if they have tenure. Of course there are policies to follow. | |
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| 3/16/2010 10:52:55 AM From: emkay64 Oh Rani lol...I think everyone agrees this is wrong. Most of us are parents and we'd all go to bat for our kids....literally. I think the only difference is in whether we'd go to the media or not. LOl...you're getting all bent outta shape. Relax. For the most part I'm pretty sure we all agree with you. | |
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3/16/2010 11:43:38 AM From: BCAR I think 16 more disjointed comments and Rani will have me convinced.
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| 3/16/2010 5:50:24 PM From: whogo I don't agree with Rani. The kid is a loser. | |
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| 3/16/2010 9:15:14 PM From: EatMyBubbles Eddo must have watched The View today. He said the samething as Whoopie. |  |
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| 3/16/2010 9:30:12 PM From: eddo I'm gonna go blow my brains out now... | |
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3/16/2010 9:31:32 PM From: eddo hey wait a minute, everything I said was at least 3 days ago, so Whoopi said the same thing as me, not the other way around.
Someone go blow her head off, but wait til I pick her in the dead pool! | |
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| 3/17/2010 3:57:33 AM From: Rani Emkay I am not bent out of shape. Set BCAR straight on a side issue, I am good. | |
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3/17/2010 5:13:11 AM From: BCAR What color is the sky in your world Rani?
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| 3/17/2010 6:03:40 AM From: Ali Today it should be GREEN!!!! | |
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3/17/2010 11:47:30 AM From: Rani What? A Person cannot have a conversation and enjoy it unless they are bent out of shape?
The only attitude I have gotten during this whole post is when YOU BCAR implied that I would minimize veteran's health issues, or at least that is what I percieved from your comment. "go tell it to the guys down at the V.A. hospital." and I let you know, I did not appreciate that comment and moved on.
What color is the sky in my world...BCAR...what kind of drug are you on today? What the hell does the color of the sky got to do with a teacher getting busted for harassing a kid?
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3/17/2010 12:32:38 PM From: BCAR All my question required was a one word answer.
Again you add 2+2 and come up with 1987649753.36792864835201 | |
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| 3/17/2010 1:31:10 PM From: Rani And???? | |
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3/17/2010 1:36:00 PM From: Rani Really BCAR, I am sorry I sent you down the primrose path of BCAR's dick is bigger than Rani's tits but do I really got to stroke your "Me man, you Woman" mentality today?
Okay then, Rani wipes retard spittle from chin. Sings La La La just for BCAR. OH look at the pretty butterfly.
Feel better?
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| 3/18/2010 6:56:28 AM From: BCAR You know Rani, I can not match you Drama for Drama. Pointing it out isn't even worth it. | |
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| 3/18/2010 8:29:41 PM From: Rani Then back off and we will be alright. | |
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| 3/19/2010 7:41:06 AM From: Chi Wow, someone's interpretting it all wrong... |  |
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| 3/19/2010 8:12:53 AM From: Rani Someone never denied it. Just said OH the Drama, the Drama. | |
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| 3/19/2010 8:35:23 AM From: Chi huh? | |
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| 3/21/2010 7:59:47 AM From: whogo If you cannot understand Rani, Chi, it is because you are sane. It's a good thing. | |
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