| 4/23/2008 1:30:37 PM From: wildbob It's not good to try to make bombs in this day and age | |
 |
|
| 4/23/2008 1:35:50 PM From: Ali Good riddance, you piece of shit. |  |
|
|
| 4/23/2008 2:54:57 PM From: PapaBryant Still nothing about why he did this? Curious... | |
|
|
| 4/23/2008 5:03:54 PM From: timesjoke What does his motivations matter? I don't need to understand the mad dog, only to deal with it is important. How do we design punnishments to discourage this kind of thing when they are planning to kill themselves anyway? Sometimes people are just messed up, what matters now is to never give this guy a second chance to do what he wants to do. |  |
|
|
| 4/23/2008 7:44:49 PM From: Rani I think yes, understanding motivations go a long way in stopping future things like this from happening. One might very well may have to put a mad dog down but it is important to know why the dog went mad in order to stop the epidemic. And this shit is becoming an epidemic. |  |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 1:54:02 AM From: hugo Usually it is some guy who ain't getting laid. If ya gals would start screwing psychos this would not be happening. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 3:21:16 AM From: timesjoke Funny stuff Hugo. My point about motivation is we cannot possibly know the 'true' reasons for this kind of thing because most of the time they are too mixed up to ever give a truly straight answer to that question. Add in the lawyers putting plausable excuses into his mind and their own self-protective instincts and what ends up comming out of their mouths is completely useless. Truly sick people do not think like we do, they do not need real reasons for their actions, they just do it. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 5:32:08 AM From: Rani So you are saying that people do this sort of stuff because they have a mental illness? That alone is valuable information. Because we know this we can then work towards a solution. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 5:38:59 AM From: Rani Since not every person who suffers from a mental illness goes about shooting and bombing people, it must then be a specific mental illness. And hence a time consuming investigation begins. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 5:47:36 AM From: Rani just like with your mad dog analogy, your dog goes mad and attacks you, you have to put it down. According to your arguement, that is where it ends, finding out why your dog went mad doesn't matter. But it does matter, if nothing else, out of grief you want to know why your dog went mad. In the meantime, there is an outbreak of dogs attacking owners. Why is this happening? Why does it matter? It matters. Well, you find out it is rabies causing the problem. (The motivation) because you know the motivation for the attack, rabies, then you can start the process of hunting down the animal that is infecting all your neighborhood dogs. Long and drawn out process, yes, worth it, yes. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 6:14:44 AM From: Rani So we know teens who go about on shooting rampages and bombings suffer from mental illness (the motivation) now we can begin to hunt down the specific mental illness infecting our teen aged children that drives them to do this stuff. Time consuming, yes, worth it, yes. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 7:07:55 AM From: Rani could it be Schizophrenia which develops anywhere from 15 years of age to 30 years of age. Or a personality disorder? | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 11:00:58 AM From: BCAR 10 lbs. of Ammonium nitrate (also known as lawn fertilizer) isn't much of a mass destruction tool. Certainly enough to blow up a toilet or something. |  |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 11:02:10 AM From: BCAR Rani - Whate the f uck are you talking about? | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 11:31:02 AM From: Rani BCAR take time to read the entire post...and you would know what the f uck I am talking about. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 12:29:22 PM From: BCAR Read the post, read your comments, still stand by my initial statement. You need to be clear and concise like Hugo, his comments makes perfect sense. If you can't articulate your idea in 10 words or less you don't have a clear idea. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 1:40:56 PM From: Rani 10 words or less...let me think on it. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 1:46:03 PM From: Rani And you used more than 10 words, btw. Best I got for you is a 12 word sentence, will that do? | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 1:47:22 PM From: Rani If you know why something is happening you can solve the problem. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 1:59:11 PM From: Rani Do I need to break down TJ and my conversation for you?
| |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 5:32:20 PM From: BCAR Rani- What the frack are you talking about? 8 words including the salutation. | |
|
|
| 4/24/2008 7:56:52 PM From: MrsK This kid is 18, and just threw his life down the toilet. So where shall we lay the blame this time? Video Games? Movies... Grrrrr... |  |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 3:55:21 AM From: timesjoke Rani-There is a thing called taking stuff to extremes, this is what your doing by looking for specific answers where you cannot ever hope to find them. "IF" you could monitor every person in America during every second of their life, you could possibly prevent stuff like this, but being as you can't, then the best you can hope for is to pick up the pieces as fast as possible. Is it possible that this is caused by some mental issues? Probably, I would say you need to be partly twisted if your wanting to kill people including yourself, but the question is not if there was some problem, the question is could it have been detected? He was a "A" student and his parents did not note any major problems to make them think he was ill until this incident came up. Most people with mental illnesses learn to wear a false mask to the public, to hide their issues. | |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 5:46:20 AM From: BCAR One should note the kid didn't actually do anything. | |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 6:33:35 AM From: Rani True BCAR. | |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 6:50:24 AM From: Rani Yes, it would be difficult Rae, but we could at least be willing to try. | |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 6:52:45 AM From: Rani There was a time when students didn't ever do stuff like this, never thought to do something like this. Then one day, a kid did, and now it seems to be the "in" thing to do. | |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 10:35:48 AM From: BCAR I threw a cherry bomb in a trash can in the bathroom once. That's me BCAR WMD. | |
|
|
| 4/25/2008 8:24:44 PM From: timesjoke "4/25/2008 6:52:45 AM From: Rani There was a time when students didn't ever do stuff like this, never thought to do something like this. Then one day, a kid did, and now it seems to be the "in" thing to do. "*******And there was also a time when married people stuck together and kids had their mother and father in the home to help raise them into stable/productive members of society. This kid was another example of the costs of broken homes. I don't give him an excuse, he did what he did, but how can we truly expect our kids to behave when they don't have an example of responsibility in the home? | |
|
|
| 4/26/2008 12:21:43 AM From: hugo The reason I make more than 10.50 an hour is it don't take me an hour to tell tell a lazy ass employee to get to frackin work. | |
|
|
| 4/26/2008 7:58:07 AM From: hugo Can't make bombs, can't tie nooses to trees, can't play dodgeball, they are taking all the fun out of adolescence. | |
|
|
| 4/26/2008 9:12:26 AM From: mercury Bill Finkbeiner blew up the toilet in the boys bathroom with an M-80 in 8th grade. The kid walking by the bathroom when it blew went deaf for a few days. Bill was suspended for 10 days, the kid that supplied the matches got 5, and that was that. |  |
|
|
